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Notes from meeting October 4

posted Oct 9, 2021, 1:11 AM by Posts Editor   [ updated Oct 9, 2021, 1:13 AM ]

Present: Brian Marriott, Brian Pain, Barbara Sharp, Endra O'May, Mark Adams, Andy Ritchie, Martin Riddle, Steve Wilson
Chair and notes: Richard Forster
  • Nancy to go in the shed 8th November
    • Need trailer cradle parts from Piet Laidlaw
    • Painting
      • Itemised quote received from Mark Adams: $1899.50
      • 23 sq m to be painted
      • Brian Marriott has contact for Norglass
      • Two pack v single pack. Speak to Jay Lorry, WBC, Jeremy, Dave Golding
      • Martin to organise a couple of quotes.
        • Get itemised quote for painting.
    • Martin to speak to John Driessen about belt tensioner.
    • Use of Evaporator Shed
      • Speak to evaporator team about terms.
      • Limited electricity.
      • Heat guns: need to be organised.
    • Paints will need lead time.
  • Meeting is generally in favour of commercial use of Nancy as proposed by Mark.
    • I would take her on three days per week on a permanent basis in order to create an income for myself, a regular income the LBT and have Nancy being ‘out on the river’ where she belongs :)
    • Most likely We’d/Thurs/fri, as I want to be my kids on the weekend.
    • I would take on all advertising for the venture.
    • I would suggest payment to the LBT would occur via a percentage of income rather than a set weekly fee.
    • I would, of course, still make myself available to skipper Nancy for other LBT events/passengers on other days as a volunteer.
    • Note: I have recently gained my Coxswains 1 ticket. The minimum ticket needed to take paying passengers on a boat in survey under 12mtrs.
    • I have spoken to some re the ethos and concerns around this idea and I’m only keen to get it up and running with a consensus blessing.

    Nancy needs training days so we have more skippers that can use boat recreationally.


Agenda for meeting Monday 4th October

posted Oct 3, 2021, 2:40 PM by Posts Editor   [ updated Oct 3, 2021, 2:50 PM ]

(If you are reading this in email see properly formatted version at https://tinyurl.com/39s4h8we)

Time: 5pm, Place: LBT Shed. 

1. Seniors Week.  
Monday, October 11
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT.
Tuesday, October 12
     Tuesday Group: shore support
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SKIPPER.  
Wednesday, October 13
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT. 
Thursday, October 14
     steve wilson: deck hand
     REQUIRE SKIPPER, SHORE SUPPORT. 
Friday, October 15
     brian pain: skipper
     endra o'may: deck hand
     REQUIRE SHORE SUPPORT. 
Sunday, October 17
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT.

2. Maintenance (early November)
        Nancy to be pulled out and work done in the Evaporator Shed. 
        Proposal to subcontract some work.  An initial estimate for painting hull is approx $2000.

3.  Commercial use of Nancy.
     The following initial proposal has been received from Mark Adams.

Here is a brief outline of possible regular commercial use of Nancy. 

I would take her on three days per week  
on a permanent basis in order to create an income for myself, a regular income the LBT and have Nancy being ‘out on the river’ where she belongs :)

Most likely We’d/Thurs/fri, as I want to be my kids on the weekend. 

I would take on all advertising for the venture. 

I would suggest payment to the LBT would occur via a percentage of income rather than a set weekly fee. 

I would, of course, still make myself available to skipper Nancy for other LBT events/passengers on other days as a volunteer. 

Note: I  have recently gained my Coxswains 1 ticket. The minimum ticket needed to take paying passengers on a boat in survey under 12mtrs. 

I have spoken to some re the ethos and concerns around this idea and I’m only keen to get it up and running with a consensus blessing. 

 


 

Nancy Fanciers meeting Monday 4th Oct 5pm

posted Oct 1, 2021, 3:53 PM by Posts Editor   [ updated Oct 1, 2021, 3:53 PM ]

There are a number of issues to be considered:
  • Nancy's role in Seniors Week (starting Monday 11th);
  • getting Nancy out of the water for major maintenance at the beginning of November;
  • how to get that work done (volunteers, subcontracting);
  • how to operate Nancy in the coming summer season (volunteers, leasing).
Get along, hear about the different proposals, and have your say.


Seniors Week crews needed: Mon 11-17 Oct

posted Sep 30, 2021, 3:01 PM by Posts Editor   [ updated Sep 30, 2021, 3:01 PM ]

We are booked out for several of these days and expect passengers on all of them.  We need a skipper, deckhand and shore support for all days. If you can help out please complete the form at https://goo.gl/forms/9XQ537Q9uOSKbVz03  or use the crew admin page: https://sites.google.com/site/mvnancytours/home/nancy-administration. Here is a list of the crews as of Friday morning.

  • Monday, October 11 Brian Pain: skipper;
  • Tuesday, October 12 Tuesday Group: shore support;
  • Wednesday, October 13 Brian Pain: skipper;
  • Thursday, October 14 Steve Wilson: deck hand; 
  • Friday, October 15 Brian Pain: skipper;
  • Sunday, October 17 Brian Pain: skipper, Steve Wilson: deck hand.  




Minutes from Nancy Fanciers Meeting

posted Sep 6, 2021, 1:22 AM by Posts Editor   [ updated Sep 30, 2021, 2:44 PM ]

At the Shed, 6th September 5pm

Present: Brian Pain, Martin Riddle, Andy Ritchie, Paul Frost, Glynn Shevels, Brian Marriott

Minutes: Richard Forster


  1. What work is required?

    1. Dynil sheathing.

      1. Small areas.

      2. Should be able to glue in patches easily.

    2. Painting above the waterline to the gunwhales.

      1. Paint is lifting. May have been a primer issue.

      2. Consider paint types.

      3. May need to pay somebody to do the job. Could spend some of the money donated by Judy Krynen.

        1. Mark Adams has experience and might be a good person to do the job

        2. Also Wooden Boat Centre.

      4. Use the trailer in the first instance.

        1. Consider using the Evaporator Sheds. Approach owners.

        2. Do a dry run at the ramp just with the trailer, preferably at low tide to see what is going on. Thursday meet at Shed at 2.30pm.

    3. Tensioner for drive belt.

      1. Need a design.

        1. Tension wheel

        2. Pivot the motor – some sort of pivot on the mounting plate.

        3. Get John Driesen to look at it.

        4. Andrew Perkins.

      2. Do we need toothed belts?

      3. Not immediately required.

    4. Paint the decks alongside the cabin.

      1. Can’t do a proper job until the decks are dry.

      2. Would be good to do whilst boat is in shed.

    5. Steering gear should have stops to prevent the rudder turning to far.

      1. Might be a job for the engineer to look at.

      2. Dealing with the bilge. Advice is to leave it unpainted.

  2. When do we get Nancy out of the water?

        1. November 8th 1.15pm is a good time

  3. Bilges.

    1. Have been blasted and vacuumed.

    2. Wash with fresh water – not salt.

    3. Planks probably oil soaked.

    4. Just keep cleaning them.

    5. Live with bare timbers.

  4. Cabin

    1. Has rot in at least 2 window frames.

    2. Need appropriate wood. Tuesday group, and Dennis can tackle.

  5. Decking.

    1. Lifting on the port side at the front. Would be easiest to do in the shed.

  6. Front window leaks

    1. Is ok when the cover is on.

    2. If it pivoted, sideways or out, could be sealed.

    3. Paint cabin sides at the same time.

  7. Blinds have been fixed, paid for by Judy Krynen.

  8. Seniors week.

    1. Need crews – will advertise.

    2. Involve Mark Adams, Steve Wilson.

  9. Log in the canal needs moving.

    1. Do it tomorrow (Tuesday).

Meeting closed 18.06PM




Nancy Fanciers Meeting Meeting 5pm Monday 6th

posted Sep 2, 2021, 11:59 AM by Posts Editor   [ updated Sep 2, 2021, 12:02 PM ]

The recent inspection of Nancy down at the slip revealed a number of problems: paint getting shabby, sheathing coming away below the waterline, some rot in the woodwork etc.  Come along to this meeting at the Shed to plan  some maintenance.



CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF EV POWERPAK BATTERIES.

posted Mar 2, 2021, 2:58 PM by Posts Editor

In response to a query about how we should be looking after our batteries our supplier Rod Dilkes sent the following information. 


STORING BATTERIES. 

Generally speaking Lithium batteries like to be used regularly. Regular charge and discharge cycles keep the batteries active and healthy. Prolonged (weeks) charging at 100% State of Charge (SOC) is not recommended. 

Care needs to be exercised when storing batteries in case equipment is accidentally left switched on, or in case the charger malfunctions or is inadvertently unplugged. Also the electronic Battery Control Unit (BCU) will over time gradually draw down the battery SOC. So if the batteries are left idle for a period the SOC may reduce until eventually the battery runs flat through self discharge. 

While the BCU has internal software and hardware protections against over-discharge, it is recommended to avoid this situation if at all possible. 

When storing batteries more than two weeks between use:

1) Switch on the BCU and charger and fully charge the battery. 

A 12V EV PowerPak should get past 14.0V to be considered fully charged. 

2) Switch off all loads and chargers, including solar chargers. If there is a main isolator then switch that off. 

3) Switch off the BCU by pressing the button on the front. There will be a click as the internal relay disengages. 

4) Mark on your calendar to repeat the process in three months.

5) Goto Step 1. 

If storing batteries for periods longer than 3 months, in addition to the previous instructions, disconnect the positive (red) terminal on each battery. This will disconnect power to the BCU and will allow batteries to be safely stored for 12 months or longer. 

MAINTAINING BATTERIES. 

EV PowerPak Lithium batteries are sealed and maintenance free. All they require is occasional charging to 100% full (14.2V) and regular use.

The following points should be condsidered for good lifespan:

1) Check that each cell has a green LED indicator showing. There are four on each pack and these are visible through the cover.

2) Check terminal bolts for tightness and corrosion. If there is corrosion use a wire brush to clean and some battery terminal spray to protect.

3) Check that there is not excessive dust moisture on the battery tops. This can be removed using a clean rag.

4) Check battery and BMS cables are not jammed between batteries or have insulation damage. 5) Check that the black BMS plug on top of each battery is correctly seated. If you look after your EV PowerPak batteries they will last you for many years! 

 Pic: Mr Sparks at work. 

Battery Issues

posted Feb 20, 2021, 1:47 PM by Posts Editor   [ updated Feb 20, 2021, 1:50 PM ]

Meeting to discuss Nancy battery issues 18/2/21

Notes: Richard Forster

Present: Tom Stevens, Brian Marriott, Paul Frost, Brian Pain


  • Background

    • At the Open Day Nancy suddenly and unexpectedly lost power after less than an hour’s operation. After half an hour recharge she was able to go out, but after another half hour lost power again. After recharging overnight she would appear to be back to ‘normal’. This unexpected loss of power also happened a year ago on the way back from Kermandie.

    • Charger is adapted to lithium ion.

    • Batteries sold to us by a reputable dealer. Are six years old.

  • The problem

    • When the battery is kept on continuous charge, it isn’t charged when it said it is.

    • Battery runs out well before it is expected to.

    • This problem has occurred on multiple occasions.

    • There is no sure way of knowing how much charge is in the batteries unless they are fully charged or discharged. The voltage doesn’t tell you. Not knowing is a big issue.

    • Can batteries be bench tested?

    • If batteries are taken through a deep discharge then brought up they ‘come up’, shown by practical application.

    • Controller works at individual cell level.

    • Is the problem with the controller?

      • Brian has been checking this against measuring individual cells.

      • It is difficult to test with a different controller.

      • Check for a reset on the charger (Brian M)

      • Tom to send a link to Controller Discussion Groups to Brian M (Tom S)

    • Charger.

      • What sort?

      • Charger, controller and batteries bought as a unit.

      • It is in switch mode, but not absolutely certain.

    • Get more information. 

      • Talk to Battery World (Brian P). 

      • Talk to contacts and distributor, Rod Dilkes (Brian M).

      • Is the battery prematurely aged? Craig Salmon at French car care Kingston is a go to person for electric car owners. 0407126164.

      • Off grid installers may have information.

    • Batteries are protected from overuse by controller.

    • Stop gap measures.

      • Need to keep batteries off full charge. Only charge up when going out. In future:

        • Skipper does NOT normally put boat on charge (don’t plug in). If battery very low put it on a couple of hours timer charge (Brian M to arrange timer).

        • Boat MUST be booked out at least 24 hours before.

        • Plugged in the night before.

        • Need to a roster of ‘chargers’ who are informed when the boat is going out so that it can be charged. This needs to be incorporated into scheduling system (Richard).

        • Generators.

          • Can make modifications so that we are able to charge off a small motor, which has been a problem in the past (Brian).

          • Speak to Rod Dilkes (Brian).

        • Check the anchor (Brian P).

        • Need a safety boat capable of towing Nancy on standby (with driver). Rowan is ok, Tom is backup.

        • April 10th-11th Maritime trail Endra’s Nord is available as safety boat.

        • Share the Nancy calendar with critical people (Richard).

        • Need to schedule a few test runs (tow Rowan).

          • Next Tuesday (11am) Brian, Brian, Tom, Paul.

          • Trip to the slip – organise. (Richard). 



 Pic Happier days - Christmas 2015

Seniors Week almost upon us

posted Oct 8, 2020, 3:12 AM by Posts Editor   [ updated Oct 8, 2020, 3:14 AM ]

The good news is that we are almost fully booked up and the weather is looking ok.  We have crew and shore support for most days, but there are a couple of slots still vacant capitalised in the list below.  If you can help out enter the details on the form at https://tinyurl.com/yxfsjkqp or contact the secretary - sec@lbt.org.au  or 04977 86572. 

Monday, October 12
 barbara sharp: shore support
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand. 

Tuesday, October 13
 andrew ritchie: shore support
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand. 

Wednesday, October 14
 martin riddle: skipper
 DECK HAND NEEDED
 tess hallinan: shore support. 

Thursday, October 15
 andrew ritchie: shore support
 celia leverton: deck hand
 martin riddle: skipper. 

Friday, October 16
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
SHORE SUPPORT NEEDED. 

Saturday, October 17
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
SHORE SUPPORT NEEDED. 

Sunday, October 18
 martin riddle: skipper
 nell tyson: deck hand
 tess hallinan: shore support.


Seniors Week Helpers

posted Oct 1, 2020, 3:22 PM by Richard Forster   [ updated Oct 8, 2020, 3:13 AM by Posts Editor ]

Thanks to everybody who has put their name forward.

So far (Friday Oct 2) we have bookings for Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  More bookings are coming in fast, and I think we can assume that the other days will fill up.  The calendar is shown  below, with the  'holes' where we need people capitalised.  If you can fill a spot please complete the form at https://tinyurl.com/yxfsjkqp or contact the secretary - sec@lbt.org.au  or 04977 86572. 

Monday, October 12 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 
 
Tuesday, October 13 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT.

Wednesday, October 14 
 tess hallinan: shore support 
 NEED SKIPPER 
 NEED CREW.  
 
 Thursday, October 15 
 NEED SKIPPER 
 NEED CREW 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 


Friday, October 16 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 

Saturday, October 17
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 


Sunday, October 18
 brian pain: skipper
 NEED CREW
 tess hallinan: shore support. 





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